I realize that the APE and the WIX already exist but what I'm talking about
is setting up a second peering point with different game rules. Namely Give
as much as you take
What you guys don't seem to understand is that if all the smaller ISP's
Maxnet, IHUG, Slingshot, etc.... were all combined into one (big lump) that
is probably way more end consumers than what Telstra has. And probably
enough to get Telecom thinking as well
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Wicks"
To: "'Tikiri Wicks'"
Cc: "'nznog'"
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [nznog] Peering Issue - Perhaps a solution
I hate to mention the obvious Tikiri, but that already exsists, they are
called APE and WIX.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tikiri Wicks [mailto:tcwicks(a)maxnet.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2003 11:13 a.m.
To: Andy Linton; nznog
Subject: [nznog] Peering Issue - Perhaps a solution
Just a thought here
Since most ISP's in NZ seem to be in agreement over this. What if
instead of just blowing off steam:
Everyone joins hands and sets up two (or more) peering exchanges. One in
Auckland and one in Wellington. Then everyone simply drops all peering with
Telstra (and / or Telecom if and where relevant) and interconnect through
the two (or more) exchange points. The idea is that no one would pay for
anything except for the cost of connectiong yourselves to the exchange
points. Whether this be via tangent / united network / citylink / some big
SDH radio link / microwave / a whole bunch of people running to the
exchanges with buckets fileld with packets :)
Peering would be voluntary for anyone and on the condition that each
provides the same amount of bandwidth under the same conditions from their
network to the exchange as they do from teh exchange to their network.
That should keep players like Telecom and Telstra from trying to
manipulate the market.
If Telstra want to peer they would be forced to do so at the same
conditions that apply to everyone else
Also the costs of interconnectivity between the exchange points could be
borne by the members based on some simple equation such as for example a
ratio based on the amount of bandwidth with which they connect to the
exchanges. Fill in the blanks here ________
Finally I would think that this would be a great opportunity for
operators like tangent who have fibre running between the two (or more)
hypothetical exchanges.
Cheers
Tikiri
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Linton"
To: "nznog"
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:53 AM
Subject: [nznog] Peering at the APE and WIX - was Re: Irked with
TelstraClear
I posted some notes yesterday about peering with the APE and WIX route
servers and gave a link for application forms which wasn't as useful as
it might have been. For reference the forms are at:
http://www.citylink.co.nz/cgi-bin/wixape.pl?tmpl=ape.tmpl
http://www.citylink.co.nz/cgi-bin/wixape.pl?tmpl=wix.tmpl
Joe Abley posted some ideas on peering - one obvious one that he hasn't
gone the whole distance with is that if many of the small/medium players
work together they will be in a better position to negotiate peering
with the two large telcos.
Consider the stories here:
http://www.tomsdomain.com/aesop/id17.htm
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