Anyone got a contact for the admins of list.waikato.ac.nz ? I looked at their contact page but it seems to be directed at staff/students. The problem is that https://list.waikato.ac.nz/ is not working on some browsers (Chrome, curl) and giving a cert error. It would appear the following intermediate cert: issuer=/C=BM/O=QuoVadis Limited/CN=QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G3 (which is the one that signs list.waikato.ac.nz) is the problem. It appears that it is built into firefox which is okay and possibly was included in Chrome in the past. https://www.waikato.ac.nz includes this intermediate cert in replies so it is not affected. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.simonlyall.com/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar