Hello Skeeve, If you're serious, perhaps you need to contact a Lawyer. It may cost you money up front to find out what you may already know, but it might save you money in the long run if you run into issues down the track. However. one would have thought, though, that they would have posted the rules on this sort of thing in their Terms and Conditions. Other than that, it would probably pay to contact the sites delivering the currently available content and query them about this "pre-caching" situation, or "re-broadcasting" their web releases. As for the Auzzie Copyright question, you might want to check out: http://www.copyright.org.au/ (I think it's 10 years). Cheers, Mike ________________________________ From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 3:00 a.m. To: nznog Subject: [nznog] FW: Content again - legality question Again, any thoughts on the NZ situation (legally) regarding this? -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? From: ausnog-bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 12:59 AM To: ausnog(a)ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] Content again - legality question Hey all, Content question again - but this time a legal question. For any content that is 'freely available on the web' - what is the legality of acquiring this content and delivering it locally? For example.. many TV stations are uploading full episodes onto their websites after the show has aired. YouTube would be another example. I am only talking about free content - which is not paid for, but freely downloadable from websites. I guess I am talking about a 'pre-caching' kind of situation. Also, does anyone know at what point music becomes legally free to use in Australia?... like books after 50years after the authors death (in the US it is 20). ...Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? Disclaimer: Limits of Liability and Disclaimer: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. eintellego Pty Ltd and each legal entity in the Tefilah Pty Ltd group of companies reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Any reference to costs, fee quotations, contractual transactions and variations to contract terms is subject to separate confirmation in writing signed by an authorised representative of eintellego. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, we cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or compatible with your systems and do not accept any liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced.