Without going into a sales pitch (you can get the detail off our website) we do offer such things... Home Phone Wireless is a fixed-line service running over our mobile network (so you get a landline number). Home Zone tells your phone you're in the house when you arrive home and converts it from a mobile to your landline number (which I think is what you're talking about in the US). And just to clarify a point about mobile termination rates - MTR and Fixed Termination Rates (FTR) are exactly the same in NZ. We don't differentiate. Currently they're both 15c/minute (due to decline by another cent in April next year). Cheers Paul Paul Brislen External Communications Manager Vodafone New Zealand 021 721 337 From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 2:44 p.m. To: Patrick Jordan-Smith Cc: NZNOG Subject: Re: [nznog] NAND In the US it's user pays - so if someone calls you then you pay to receive the call. That's why their plans are in minutes. The minutes are in AND out. In OZ, Orange (now Three/3) tried it on their CDMA network, but it never took off. They restricted it to a location (ie. it did some checking that you were within a certain physical area). In Oz the legal requirements are that a geographic number is tied to a physical location (well, kind of, it's wierd), so I guess the legality of it is difficult. The other thing, which is a bit hidden, is that carriers receive MUCH more revenue for call termination on mobile than land line. In Oz it's 9-12c/min for mobile but 1c/min for PSTN (or there abouts). The question in my mind is - it's easy enough to forward calls from a land line (call forward all) so if you're not willing to do that and pay for the minutes, would you be willing to do it? MMC On 20/04/2009, at 12:06 PM, Patrick Jordan-Smith wrote: Presumably because they don't want to? On 20/04/2009, at 2:13 PM, James Jones wrote: is there any nand experts on here? I just was just wondering why none of the moblie phone providers have but local numbers on a cell like we do in the states. I was just wondering not very familiar with NAND stuff here in NZ. James Jones Managing Director Freedom Networks +64 6 3678300 +1 413 771 1402 james(a)freedomnet.co.nz _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog -- Matthew Moyle-Croft Networks, Internode/Agile Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia Email: mmc(a)internode.com.au Web: http://www.on.net http://www.on.net/ Direct: +61-8-8228-2909 Mobile: +61-419-900-366 Reception: +61-8-8228-2999 Fax: +61-8-8235-6909 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unless otherwise stated, any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not represent those of Vodafone New Zealand Limited.