I agree with UCE... I've started receiving a lot of it lately... not sure how they are getting around the laws, but I've been too lazy to report them. ��I also don't often mind if it is someone I know, but the amount of UCE in .au from players I've never heard of, claiming to be significant players is annoying.

I think discussion about commercials only helps the community - if allowed (not under NDA). ��When did we become so paranoid about what the other guy is buying at that we avoid the discussion?

I would suggest that avoiding discussion of the pricing of anything from transit, fibre, racks, etc... just serves the people selling it and keeps prices higher.

Personally, I would like to know some of the pricing out there so that when I next go to buy some, I don't have to contact a dozen players, and miss out on deals which might be around, because let's be honest here... it isn't exactly something you just Google and get an easy answer. ��There is no marketplace or eBay for most ISP services.




...Skeeve

Skeeve Stevens -��eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
The Experts Who The Experts Call
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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Peter Mott <peter@localcloud.co.nz> wrote:

On 2/07/2014, at 6:49 pm, Joel van Velden <noc@ngw.co.nz> wrote:

> This might be as good a time as any to introduce ourselves.

<snip blatant commercial advertisement>

Back in the day, any hint of self promotion or commercial discussion on this list was deemed evil.

I also received a similar email (unsolicited) sent to my email address earlier today.

Personally, I prefer to seek out services when I need them.

Folk who choose to send me UCE tend to go to the bottom of the list very quickly. ��I do this because (from my considerable experience) a person who does not respect my privacy, is unlikely to be a candidate for a long term professional relationship.

Am I getting too old for all of this, or have we crossed a line here?

regards

Peter Mott
LocalCloud Limited
Business Critical Application Hosting

+64 9 280 0925
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