On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 01:14 , Roger De Salis wrote:
I see commercial providers with multiple parallel STM-64s plumbed directly into routers either sides of the Atlantic and the Pacific, who are struggling to attract customers to even remotely fill the pipes.
Only because the price is wrong. Customers want price-certainty.
So explain to me how Internet2 is going to fundamentally lower the cost of deploying and operating a global network. This is my core confusion. Their commercial analogues are busy laying their own fibre into the ground and under oceans, and incurring nothing in the way of telco circuit pricing. There *are* no "existing marvelous telco charges". These people are sending packets over wavelengths with SONET or SDH framing, and no additional encaps overhead.
No one either commercially or domestically will buy into the "Jet-stream" charging model.
I have no idea what Jetstream has to do with anything :) I am talking about Internet2.
The situation in the metro and long-haul intracontinental networks is even more fibre-rich. I don't see a need to build another internet here -- I see a need to start using the existing one :)
But I don't like the price of your existing one.
And I don't believe the price of the proposed alternative.
I want a fibre to my house, and a fixed price, all-I-can-eat service. (Voice and data)
Pretty simple really. This is a not a service that is currently offered, but it doesn't mean people don't want it.
I would also like free intercontinental air travel, on a personal high-speed jet aircraft, with transport to and from the airport available by helicopter at any time of day or night with sixty minutes notice. Strangely enough, that's not a service that anybody is currently offering, either.
Internet 2 and the rural activities are part of "the current charging model doesn't stack up"...
I remain eager to hear about the quantum leap in network architecture or accounting that allows Internet2 to deploy a global network which is so cheap it can be considered free. And if that is really what they are doing, then I am confused as to why any other commercial operator is still in business. Joe - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog