Re: [nznog] APNIC - The policy to end all policies prop-103-v001

10 Jul 2012

      I agree.

IPv6 still needs some work.  For one there's too much "scarcity" obsession left over from IPv4 Really need to focus on allowing people to get what they need up front without coming up with crazy policies which introduce new constructs into IPv6 (ie. reservations, ratios for how much you've allocated in those reservations etc).   If the really big networks NEED lots of IPv6 space, then let them, as long as we don't obsess about it.

Also need more global alignment of policies.  If one "region" allows /48s direct to orgs without multihoming then everyone should.  Seems silly otherwise.

MMC

On 11/07/2012, at 3:26 PM, Dean Pemberton wrote:
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That may be true for v4 (although I'm far from convinced).  But I'm not at all buying it for v6
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012, wrote:
Actually, I think that this proposal is more than just to incite thinking, it actually
has merit.  The v4 space is functionally all assigned.  Many/Most of the existing policies
are focused on events that are no longer relevent.  new policies, if any, should ensure
accurate recording of stewardship.   It would make an ISP's life -MUCH- simpler.
/bill
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:53:19PM +1200, Dean Pemberton wrote:
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So let me ask a simple question.
Do people think that there is a need to develop any more IP policies?  Or
are all the policies we have the moment sufficient for the future?
Dean
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
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I think Randy's taking the wrong tactic with this.
Policy needs to be a series of no-rules cage fights or, maybe, something
along the line of gladiator traditions in Roman time.
Then it could be televised, a profit made and APNIC run from that profit
rather than charging for IP addresses and ASes.
MMC
On 09/07/2012, at 6:08 AM, Dean Pemberton wrote:
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Morning all,
Randy Bush (from IIJ in Japan) has just tabled a policy for discussion
at the August APNIC members meeting.
Essentially if passed this would see the APNIC policy development
process disolved.
I'm interested in feedback that people on this list may have, and I'm
happy to pass it along on the sig-policy list or in person at the
meeting.
As always, feel free to contribute to what I'm sure will be heated
discussion on the APNIC sig-policy list.  I'll try and summarise the
happenings back here.
Regards,
Dean
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From: Andy Linton 
Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:32 AM
Subject: [sig-policy] prop-103-v001: A Final IP Address Policy Proposal
To: SIG policy 
Dear SIG members
The proposal "prop-103-v001:  A Final IP Address Policy Proposal" has
been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be discussed at the Policy SIG at APNIC 34 in Phnom Penh,
Cambodia, Thursday, 30 August 2012.
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
before the meeting.
The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal?
         - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If
           so, tell the community about your situation.
         - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
         - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
         - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
           effective?
Information about this and other policy proposals is available from:
https://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-103
Andy, Skeeve, Masato
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Author: Randy Bush

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