On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 09:37:07PM +1200, Craig Whitmore wrote: I was wondering what people think about this latest story.. http://www.idg.net.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/4AA2988B4A1835C5CC256BFF0014A6A8!open... When working with these people some time ago (two years ago perhaps?) I mentioned this to the beanie-wearers there as it was affecting *my* traffic. I spent about 10 minutes (maybe more) explaining the problem in detail (the person I spoke to was quite inquisitive and asked lots of useful questions) for them only to then say that blocking ICMP is the right thing to do and they know better. In short, these people *know* about the issue or should know, it's just an abundance of arrogance an ineptitude that gives us the present situation. I should also point out that I have the same conversation with various other companies and got similar responses, I probably have some of that archived away somewhere too. --cw [1] I didn't talk to the helpdesk and anyone like that. I managed at the time to talk to administrators of the firewall(s) who answered various questions of mine which gave me the distinct impression that there was a severe clue money imbalance at the time. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog