Hi NZNOG :-) IHUG is changing its peering policy for peering over WIX and APE. We will no longer be directly peering with our current peers but will continue to peer with the route reflectors. Customers of IHUG who require APE/WIX peering directly will not be affected by this policy. This change is not because we don't like peering; it's just our way of trying to make our network simpler to manage. We are aware that some isp's are not huge fans of the route reflectors and prefer direct peering. We have heard all the arguments about why direct peering is much better than the "evil route reflectors of doom", but we personally have had no problems with them and they have proven to be reliable. If you have any questions, please contact me off list. Thank you :-) Simon Allard Ihug Limited P +64 9 962 9827 M +64 21 456 412 E simon.allard(a)staff.ihug.co.nz