Anyone else noticed this since 12 this afternoon, traffic to some telstra ip ranges going international even though they appear in my national routing table supplied by orcon... I've confirmed this from one other host (tr.meta.net.nz) on orcon, anyone else? Telstra DSL customers, their web hosting division and a few others are going international then back into the country, however some clear sites are fine as per below: traceroute to karma.clear.net.nz (203.97.32.100), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 primary (60.234.66.129) 0.635 ms 0.624 ms 0.586 ms 2 ge-0-3-0-200.cr1.nct.orcon.net.nz (60.234.9.1) 0.523 ms 0.638 ms 0.681 ms 3 60.234.9.8 (60.234.9.8) 0.735 ms 1.384 ms 0.837 ms 4 203.97.2.161 (203.97.2.161) 3.436 ms 3.243 ms 3.865 ms 5 g1-0-1043.u12.brh.telstraclear.net (203.98.23.17) 3.546 ms 7.114 ms 3.424 ms 6 g9-0-945.u11.pnr.telstraclear.net (203.98.23.194) 6.000 ms 3.777 ms 5.136 ms 7 gi-4-0-878.u21.telstraclear.net (218.101.61.138) 14.288 ms 15.050 ms 14.254 ms 8 a12-3-23.u21.tar.telstraclear.net (203.98.23.34) 15.076 ms 42.059 ms 14.670 ms 9 ae1-844.ie4.telstraclear.net (218.101.61.117) 11.554 ms 11.333 ms 11.358 ms 10 ge-1-2-0-843.ie1.telstraclear.net (218.101.61.105) 12.270 ms 12.990 ms 13.572 ms 11 front1-clix.clear.net.nz (203.167.243.212) 13.052 ms 13.249 ms 12.983 ms 12 karma.clear.net.nz (203.97.32.100) 13.143 ms 13.142 ms 13.069 ms traceroute to 121-72-28-16.dsl.telstraclear.net (121.72.28.16), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 primary (60.234.66.129) 0.642 ms 0.590 ms 0.557 ms 2 ge-0-3-0-200.cr1.nct.orcon.net.nz (60.234.9.1) 0.549 ms 1.177 ms 0.944 ms 3 ge-1-3-0-400.cr1.sky.orcon.net.nz (60.234.9.21) 7.836 ms 6.838 ms 5.536 ms 4 OrconInternet.gw1.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.167.153) 5.077 ms 3.406 ms 1.778 ms 5 ge-1-2-0-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net (202.147.55.222) 1.274 ms 2.696 ms 1.902 ms 6 po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.55.254) 23.995 ms 29.158 ms 35.145 ms 7 gi1-3.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.190) 31.912 ms 24.378 ms 26.212 ms 8 61.88.133.205 (61.88.133.205) 27.267 ms 28.816 ms 28.926 ms 9 GigabitEthernet1-4.ken12.Sydney.telstra.net (139.130.65.145) 33.790 ms 30.153 ms 26.487 ms 10 Bundle-Ether4.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.41) 30.889 ms 28.365 ms 26.615 ms 11 Bundle-Ethernet3.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.26) 30.871 ms 28.709 ms 27.337 ms 12 Port-Channel1.pad-gw1.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.25) 26.592 ms 27.205 ms 28.404 ms 13 unknown.net.reach.com (134.159.126.33) 27.117 ms 27.875 ms 30.866 ms 14 i-3-0.tauc-core01.net.reach.com (202.84.142.142) 52.229 ms 52.308 ms 58.073 ms 15 203.167.233.14 (203.167.233.14) 52.988 ms 54.358 ms 53.908 ms 16 ie1-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net (203.98.50.1) 29.688 ms 27.061 ms 29.254 ms 17 218.101.61.163 (218.101.61.163) 29.570 ms 29.038 ms 36.667 ms 18 *^C traceroute to www.paradise.net.nz (203.96.152.127), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 primary (60.234.66.129) 0.624 ms 0.638 ms 0.571 ms 2 ge-0-3-0-200.cr1.nct.orcon.net.nz (60.234.9.1) 0.426 ms 0.446 ms 0.426 ms 3 ge-1-3-0-400.cr1.sky.orcon.net.nz (60.234.9.21) 2.177 ms 1.786 ms 2.296 ms 4 OrconInternet.gw1.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.167.153) 2.946 ms 2.431 ms 1.834 ms 5 ge-1-2-0-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net (202.147.55.222) 0.990 ms 2.633 ms 2.567 ms 6 po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.55.254) 25.366 ms 25.566 ms 25.068 ms 7 gi1-2.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.182) 25.462 ms 24.029 ms 23.939 ms 8 61.88.133.205 (61.88.133.205) 27.373 ms 26.260 ms 28.539 ms 9 gigabitethernet4-3.ken12.sydney.telstra.net (139.130.2.65) 28.342 ms 31.793 ms 28.448 ms 10 Bundle-Ether4.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.41) 27.120 ms 28.729 ms 34.028 ms 11 Bundle-Ethernet3.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.26) 34.244 ms 28.564 ms 29.506 ms 12 Port-Channel1.pad-gw1.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.25) 197.367 ms 204.040 ms 200.955 ms 13 unknown.net.reach.com (134.159.126.33) 26.861 ms 31.010 ms 29.032 ms 14 i-3-0.tauc-core01.net.reach.com (202.84.142.142) 52.340 ms 50.991 ms 50.760 ms 15 203.167.233.14 (203.167.233.14) 56.734 ms 51.162 ms 52.239 ms 16 ie1-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net (203.98.50.1) 26.802 ms 25.833 ms 27.581 ms 17 218.101.61.162 (218.101.61.162) 27.050 ms 26.124 ms 31.480 ms 18 218.101.61.42 (218.101.61.42) 43.502 ms 44.411 ms 46.399 ms ^C traceroute to www.clear.net.nz (203.97.33.220), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 primary (60.234.66.129) 0.607 ms 0.610 ms 0.575 ms 2 ge-0-3-0-200.cr1.nct.orcon.net.nz (60.234.9.1) 0.467 ms 0.833 ms 0.523 ms 3 60.234.9.8 (60.234.9.8) 0.537 ms 0.489 ms 0.495 ms 4 203.97.2.161 (203.97.2.161) 19.630 ms 9.418 ms 6.234 ms 5 g1-0-1043.u12.brh.telstraclear.net (203.98.23.17) 11.222 ms 6.493 ms 3.908 ms 6 g9-0-945.u11.pnr.telstraclear.net (203.98.23.194) 4.781 ms 5.040 ms 3.573 ms 7 gi-4-0-878.u21.telstraclear.net (218.101.61.138) 14.362 ms 15.289 ms 13.767 ms 8 a12-3-23.u21.tar.telstraclear.net (203.98.23.34) 14.173 ms 15.508 ms 14.625 ms 9 ae1-844.ie4.telstraclear.net (218.101.61.117) 11.188 ms 11.102 ms 11.259 ms 10 ge-1-2-0-843.ie1.telstraclear.net (218.101.61.105) 12.479 ms 12.812 ms 12.576 ms 11 front1-clix.clear.net.nz (203.167.243.212) 12.714 ms 12.948 ms 13.112 ms ^C Cheers Barry