On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 03:51:16PM +1200, Ewen McNeill wrote:
In message <20020827030232.GT83446(a)buffoon.automagic.org>, Joe Abley writes:
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:04:10PM +1200, Roger De Salis wrote:
It is very hard to see how a 2LD can be justified to support the wishes of the 5 real banks, and ~20 wannabe banks, or broking houses, or insurance houses, who like to think they are bank like.
It's harder for me to figure out why anybody needs to be put in the position of having to justify it. [no technical reason, etc]
IMHO the reason for requiring a justification for creating 2lds is to ensure that they are created with some thought as to how they will be sub delegated, so that you can actually _have_ national.bank.nz, et al, rather than just having one organisation getting "bank.nz" and everyone else needing to get other variations (national-bank.nz, asb-bank.nz, whatever).
Nobody gave any thought to how domains under neos.co.nz might be delegated before they agreed to delegate the name to you. I don't really see why bank.nz should be any different.
The alternative that some are suggesting (a free for all in the second level domain space) would basically ensure that the same "land grab" that happened in .com happens in .nz; and ensure that we have to have dozens of variations on $foo-movie $foo-the-movie movie-$foo (etc) to work around the collapsed namespace. ("national" being an obvious example.)
I'm not sure that domain fever is still at the pitch it was a few years ago. Certainly a couple of the new gTLD registry operators seem to be disappointed that it isn't. There are ways of handling land-grabs. People have done it before.
As I said earlier today, I've yet to hear a compelling argument that $foo-the-movie.nz (and variations thereupon) is somehow better than $foo.movie.nz
Why do you need one?
If we collapse the namespace so that it becomes "whatever you can get" under .nz, then we might as well give up any pretense that they're "obvious" and hand them out like ASNs. At least there'd be less call for "special" names -- once 42 and a few others had been handed out.
That's a strange comparison. ASNs are a mucher scarcer resource than names, they're much more expensive and difficult to get hold of, and you get whatever number the RIR decides to give you, regardless of preference.
And then someone could build a directory service over the top of that offering a one-to-many mapping.
We could turn one largely flat namespace into another largely flat namespace, and *never have to hear about delegation of bank.nz again*. Imagine that :) Joe - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog