:: SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND NOBODY ELSE!!! THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE AND :: MAY CONTAIN NO FACTS WHATSOEVER. IN FACT CONSIDER THIS PURE FANTASY :: FOR A RAVING LUNATIC. Don't call Steve a "raving lunatic"... he's been known to be quite lucid inbetween pub opening hours. ;-) :: they had ever heard of... and neither had various people at the IRD :: it seems when I called, and when I explained it to them they didn't :: seem to think it would apply or even be worth their effort getting :: involved with. Oh, excellent. Chris tipped off the IRD. Aaaaccckk.... :: Not only this, the whole concept of place monetary value here is :: completely stupid... who pays who? If you are an ISP you will have a :: different idea than if you are a hosting company.... what's more, :: how do you decide on a value on the data here? How to you measure it? :: Do packet headers count? What about DoS attacks? What about varying :: rates for different traffic types? What about different times of the :: day? How about charging more for packets that had to traverse further :: through your network? How about charging less for those packets which :: took longer to arrive because of queuing? Maybe NNTP traffic is over :: lower value because most gets thrown away? Maybe HTML pages are of :: higher value than images? Maybe images with flesh tones should have a :: higher value than those without? I trust Doc Cullen isn't on the subscriber list? He's after a few good ideas to boost funding for overseas holidays^Wfact-finding missions for MPs. :: If you accept peering is a best effort zero-settlement bilateral :: agreement for the interests of customers of both networks then the :: above issues go away. Neither party gains a significant competitive :: advantage over the other, they both 'win'. Most importantly, the :: CONSUMER and PUBLIC AS A WHOLE wins. That's a "fringe benefit" isn't it? Taxable at 39%. -- Juha --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog