This is correct we ( I no longer work for Asia Online btw ) decided it was unacceptable that we should have to pay Telecom for connectivity ( it is not peering if you are paying for it ) on dedicated connections when we were both ( AONZ and Netgate ) connected to the agreed peering points ( especially as they were no longer AONZ's upstream provider ). 75% of the traffic passing to Netgate was outgoing, so in effect we were largely paying Telecom to deliver traffic to their customers. Telecom never actually said they would not peer, they just avoided the question for over a year ( and sighted vague "legal issues" that they never expanded on ) I think everyone here would know Alan Mitford-Taylors "I'll check that out and get back to you" line. Now it turn's out that not only are they connected at APE but they are actually passing traffic somewhere ! This confirms that Telecom is deliberately giving its downstream customers a lower level of service than its own ISP ( remember Xtra is peered on WIX and APE without any issues at all )
I have no idea why AO don't/won't peer with GG but I shant ask.
Depends who you talk to, I suspect. Last I spoke to AOL, they were dead keen to peer with any and everybody on APE and WIX. AOL weren't keen to pay Netgate/GG for the privilege of doing it for them, when AOL felt they could reach everywhere else on the local Internet without GG's help. (stop me if I've got the arguement wrong, Tony :-). Ask yourself why the only ISP's peering with GG are paying (via dedicated circuits, independant of the major exchanges) to do so, consider what it would do for GG's income if it had to peer with all those ISP's at the neutral peering points, and I think it will become blindlingly obvious why Netgate/GG doesn't want to chuck it's toys into the new sandpits. Cheers si - --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog