Hi all, I thought I'd jump in here. Without attempting to stop any discussion here on the nznog list, I would like to invite you all to continue this discussion on the policy-sig list! This is a quite significant proposal that raises some important questions about the way IP space is managed and how we as the Internet community should manage the eventual exhaustion of IPv4 and increased deployment of IPv6. As such, it affects all of us in the Internet community. The nznog list has always had very healthy debate and although some of us from APNIC staff are on this list and try to capture some of the feedback here, the way to really get your voice heard is to do it on the policy-sig list. (I see that some of you have done that which is great, but I would like more "nznogers" to get on the policy list and get involved!) There are a lot of valuable opinions here and this discussion needs input from all parts of the community. You can easily subscribe to the policy-sig list here: http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy And check out the archives here: http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/ Don't hesitate to shoot me a mail if you have any questions about this! Cheers, Nurani APNIC P.S. I was very sad to miss the last NZNOG meeting! But I did have a nice cold beer here and I thought of you guys... :-) On 15/02/2007, at 6:06 AM, jamie baddeley wrote:
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 09:25 +1300, Don Stokes wrote:
Jamie Baddeley wrote: > IX's and the like have accelerated IPv4 depletion. Discuss. Only true to a limited extent. The real problem is that the minimum allocation sizes have been set artificially high to keep the size of the routing table down. If it had been possible to get /24s from the RIRs in recent years, I'd say a lot of multihomed sites wouldn't be sitting on large blocks of unused address space. I see the many more /24s finding their way into the routing table as organisations acquire unused blocks from others. It should have been possible a long time ago, but RIR rules have discouraged it. Like it or not, once the RIRs have no address space left to assign, a secondary market in address space will form, and it's up to the RIRs to figure out whether they're going to be involved in the process or not.
Indeed. And the question has been asked: http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/archive/2007/02/ msg00007.html
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