On 17/02/10 2:55 PM, David Farrar wrote:
Only those that fall under (a) are subject to the filter.
It's not often dpf and I agree (alert the press), but this is indeed the aim of the filter. I am part of the Independent Reference Group, mainly because I don't believe the filter will work, and because I am implacably opposed to any extension of it. The members of the IRG are: Nic McCully Deputy Chief Censor Office of Film & Literature Classification Nic Johnstone Office of the Children’s Commissioner Steve O’Brien Manager, Censorship Compliance Unit Department of Internal Affairs Mark Harris Technology Research & Consulting Andrew Bowater Government Relations Manager Telecom Duncan Campbell Deputy Editor Netguide My understanding is that this is not an exclusive list and may be added to if the need arises. The Independent Reference Group hasn't met yet. The first meeting will be in early March. One of the first things I will be pushing for is publication of ISPs that have decided to join the scheme. I can understand why they would, and I expect it to be a marketing point for them. As Jordan has said, it is an HTTP filter (which is why it won't work, as most of the really bad stuff passes through email, exclusive file sharing arrangements and the like). Anyone serious about obtaining images of child abuse (CAI in the jargon) will find it trivial to get around the filter. As I said to Thomas Beagle (www.techlibertynz.org) the other day, I think it's security theatre, designed to make some sectors of the community feel safer. Officials at DIA have assured me that they do not want to extend it, even to cover the other parts of s3(2), or I would not have agreed to be a part of the process at all. As TFA says, they have watched the train wreck that is the Great Wall of Conroy (my words, not theirs) and are determined to not make those sorts of errors. However, we all need to understand that DIA can be instructed to follow Government policy. We need to monitor the policy making process and head any 'slippery slope' plans off at the political level. I am mightily encouraged that InternetNZ is engaging with DIA on this. For those unaware, while a councillor of InternetNZ, I did the testing on the previous incarnation of a filtering product, the IWF list, in 2005. My report from that trial is still available from the InternetNZ website at http://internetnz.org.nz/issues/archive/other/INZ-IWF-CAI-report.pdf I'm happy to take questions and discuss the topic, and will also take points to the IRG where appropriate, but I'd suggest that NZNOG, while a good place for Tony to ask his initial question (remember that? "Which ISPs?"), is not really the right place to discuss the subject of CAI, filtering and censorship in general. To that end, I have posted an article on my blog and welcome any discussion there (http://tracs.co.nz/gripping-hand/censorship-and-the-dia-filter/). Cheers Mark Harris