Given that no other ISP appears to have been told by the IRD that this is an issue it smells like a way for Telecom to avoid peering with zero sum settlements. I'd say they're betting on pushing people into a regime that says, "We'll charge you x cents for every Mb you take from us. You can charge us y cents for each Mb we take from you". Naturally this will be constructed so that the net result is that TSNZ makes money here.
Sounds depressingly like the phone interconnect agreements they had with other NZ providers doesn't it?
Surely there isnt that many networks still connected to NetGate domestic? Their domestic service has been pretty shagged for a long time now, and I would have thought that there were many other providers offering domestic access much cheaper? How long will it take to simply squeeze them out of the domestic market anyway? I don't know much about anyone else, but I am seeing many more AS-paths through APE and WIX than I am from AS4648. Observe: gibson:~# rsh -l admin cr1.akl.attica.net.nz sh ip bgp paths | awk '{ print $5 }' | grep -v 5594 | sort | uniq -c 1 1 17412 25 4648 44 4768 11 4770 26 7657 15 9325 1 9436 20 9439 1 9559 1 9560 8 ? 1 Path 9 i So, basically I am seeing 25 distinct AS-paths behind AS4648 (NetGate) 44 from Clear, 26 from IHUG, etc. Looks to me like it's in Telecom's best interests to peer with (the royal) us, and not the other way around. Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog