>> How far are you going to trust all these devices?
>>
>> https://w00tsec.blogspot.de/2015/11/arris-cable-modem-has-backdoor-in.html
>> ?m=1
>>
>> The one gpon device with which I am somewhat familiar.... runs an
>> embedded 2.6.32 kernel, with no patches for the past 3 years.
>>
>> Dave Täht
>> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
>> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Peter Lambrechtsen <peter@crypt.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Nov 20, 2015 4:03 PM, "Paul Adshead" <paul.adshead@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Each of the ONT's get programmed with a Chorus-known ID (and I'm
>> guessing
>> >> login). Are all of these unique ID's (- essentially hostnames?) needed
>> for
>> >> day-to-day operation, or only for remote administration, etc? I note
>> each
>> >> site install tells you NOT to move the ONT to a new premise should you
>> move,
>> >> which I'm guessing means Chorus are expecting a certain ONT ID number
>> to be
>> >> on the end of a certain circuit. Having the optical network terminating
>> on
>> >> non-Chorus gear, would most likely cause a heap of issues.
>> >
>> > Yes. The installers set the GPON SLID which is another completely
>> different
>> > number from the RemoteID.
>> > The SLID will only work on one PON port.
>> >
>> > Really Jed has it right. The ONT should be LFC supplied and owned gear.
>> Then
>> > as a RSP then you can get on with just dot1q tags over PPPoE/IPoE, DEI
>> bits
>> > or DHCP Relays and the other things that are super easy and never take
>> any
>> > complexity to implement.
>> >
>> > Adding layer 1 issues ontop of all the other issues sounds like a hiding
>> to
>> > nothing. Is installing an ONT really such an issue??
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Paul Adshead.
>> >>
>> >> On 20 November 2015 at 09:34, Ray Taylor <ray@ruralkiwi.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> My main complaint about the turris omnis is lack any FXS voice port.
>> >>> Removing wifi isn’t really an option - I would prefer the wifi to be
>> >>> built on to the main pcb to save costs rather than a pcie card.
>> >>> There also doesn’t appear to be a 24v POE output on the WAN port or
>> any
>> >>> external battery backup connector.
>> >>>
>> >>> So they have effectively eliminated most ISPs from being bulk
>> customers.
>> >>>
>> >>> A $100 router doesn’t scare me much if it performs well, can be
>> screwed
>> >>> to the wall etc. But it needs those features listed above for us as an
>> ISP
>> >>> to want to issue it to customers.
>> >>> Sure you can add an ATA and that battery backup product that an NZ
>> >>> company made for UFB installs but that is all extra wires.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Ray Taylor
>> >>> Taylor Communications
>> >>> ray@ruralkiwi.com
>> >>>
>> >>> Napier: 06-929-9082
>> >>> Waipukurau: 06-928-0549
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Dave Taht [mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com]
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 10:09 p.m.
>> >>> To: Jed Laundry
>> >>> Cc: Tristram Cheer; Ray Taylor; davey@latte.net.nz; Daniel Christie;
>> >>> NZNOG@list.waikato.ac.nz
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nznog] nzwrt redux?
>> >>>
>> >>> A couple notes:
>> >>>
>> >>> People are complaining about the pricepoint for the turris omnis.
>> >>> *with sales volume* that pricepoint decreases. Also, my thought was it
>> >>> would go out "bare" for the basic gpon connection, no wifi cards, case
>> with
>> >>> a customized label...
>> >>>
>> >>> Secondly, merely proving out/building a box that CAN do gpon well does
>> >>> not go "oh god optics" - it establishes what can be done with
>> validated
>> >>> hardware and software and makes room for cost-reductions to follow.
>> >>>
>> >>> What would it take to tackle the latter?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Dave Täht
>> >>> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
>> >>> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Jed Laundry <jlaundry@jlaundry.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi Daniel, Davey, Ray, Tristram,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 19 November 2015 at 13:04, Tristram Cheer <t@uber.co.nz> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Under the current UFB structure there is no scope for RSP supplied
>> or
>> >>> >> end user supplied pluggable optics
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > That's not true - we've come *very* close to having naked/glass BS4
>> >>> > connections, but we've yet to actually install one, because every
>> time
>> >>> > it's Really Happening, it's "argh optics, too hard need service
>> >>> > tomorrow, give me copper plzkthxbai".
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 19 November 2015 at 17:18, Davey Goode <davey@latte.net.nz>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Alu do an ont on a sfp, I was talking to some chorus people a year
>> +
>> >>> >> back about them Would be awesome if they released them especially
>> for
>> >>> >> business connections
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Optic compatibility & scale of deployment are also two of the
>> reasons
>> >>> > why we haven't pursued SFP ONTs - because then if I supply the
>> optic,
>> >>> > you have to make it work in your kit; and then when it doesn't work
>> we
>> >>> > argue until all the beer money has been spent on test equipment and
>> >>> > lab time. If we can't get it working with simple Ethernet, what hope
>> >>> > do we have with GPON?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Note: opinions are my own, etc etc.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks,
>> >>> > Jed.
>> >>>
>> >>>
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