FYI around 35 people were unsubscribed from the NZNOG list around lunchtime Friday. This is due to Waikato mail servers rejecting emails being sent to some @list.waikato.ac.nz addresses that are being used by mailman [1] which causes problems with sites that use SMTP callback to check sending addresses. They rejected the emails to mailman unsubscribed the addresses. Most of the addresses removed were hosted by Orcon. If anyone sees Colin Palmer around can they nudge him ( "nudge" means "/msg him" NOT "Wake him up at 1am" ) to have a look at this since I don't have his contact details. Once things are fixed I'll undisable everybody [2] . [1] $ telecom mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz smtp Trying 130.217.76.2... Connected to mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz ESMTP Symantec Mail Security helo fff 250 mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz mail from:<simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz> 250 Ok rcpt to:<nznog-bounces+john=example.net(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> 550 <nznog-bounces+john=example.net(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table [2] I've up'd the "bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings" number from 5 to 50 which I think is the right one, email me directly if I'm wrong. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.