Also remember that the hope is to have an international customer base on the exchanges.�� At the SIX our base is pretty diverse, and somewhat anecdotally we see:

1) Small players (no pejorative implied) - normally most don't care
2) Large players (no kudos implied) - don't want per-port stats
3) Carriers (insert "implieds") - don't want per-port stats

Mike��

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Dean Pemberton <nznog@deanpemberton.com> wrote:
It's all about knowing your customers and operating appropriately in
different markets.

New Zealand may very well be the same as Seattle, or it could be
different.�� I'd be interested to hear from some of the people peering
at the AKL exchanges about their views on port stats.�� Michael makes a
good point, but we know other areas where New Zealand businesses are a
lot more relaxed about this sort of stuff than non-New Zealand
businesses.

In the mean time have a big thumbs up for the aggregate stats!
https://www.seattleix.net/agg.htm


On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Michael Smith <mksmith@netflix.com> wrote:
> Seattle Internet Exchange (SIX) hat on
>
> We provide aggregate throughput data, but we have always heard from the
> majority of our members that per-port usage graphs should not be made
> available. Any provider that doesn't disclose usage data, and there are
> many, will balk at having their port stats publicly available.�� In some
> cases, this disclosure is serious enough to preclude them from participation
> if said disclosure is required.
>
> Mike
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Dean Pemberton <nznog@deanpemberton.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> They are indeed - Well done!!!
>>
>>
>> Here are the links for those interested in seeing examples.
>>
>> http://www.ix.asn.au/peering.html
>> http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph_view.php
>>
>> http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph.php?local_graph_id=368&rra_id=all
>> http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph.php?local_graph_id=91&rra_id=all
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Joe Wooller <joe@waia.asn.au> wrote:
>> > Hey All
>> >
>> > FWIW our peering graphs are made public.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Joe
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On 2 Dec 2014, at 6:58 am, Dean Pemberton <nznog@deanpemberton.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That sounds like a great thing.
>> >>
>> >> Cameron - my on-list feedback - This gets my vote.�� Put it on a public
>> >> website and it should be able to show a good amount of growth over
>> >> time.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Tim Hoffman <tim@cloudflare.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:33 PM, Cameron Daniel <cdaniel@nurve.com.au>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 2014-12-02 6:54 am, Jonathan Brewer wrote:
>> >>>>> Lucky for the community, Richard recorded all the NZNOG talks on
>> >>>>> WIX/APE over the years - including the ones where port utilisation
>> >>>>> questions were asked and the "commercially sensitive" response was
>> >>>>> given.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> https://www.google.com.sb/webhp?ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=site:www.r2.co.nz+NZNOG
>> >>>>> [2]
>> >>>>> Suggest NZIX get to it.
>> >>>>> -JB
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What about an opt-in or opt-out per port display? Totals aren't a big
>> >>>> deal but for the more sensitive types, being able to opt-out might be
>> >>>> enough?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Currently looking at what we do for this kind of thing, interested in
>> >>>> on- or off-list feedback.
>> >>>
>> >>> A fine idea.
>> >>>
>> >>> It would be good if we can see both Citylink and Megaport come to the
>> >>> party in the near future with providing graphs of at least their aggregate
>> >>> IX load, and if possible specific graphs of non-objecting peers also.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Tim
>> >>>
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