On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:33:48 +1300, Edmund A. Hintz wrote
On 2/1/04, dig(a)bvc.com.au thus spake:
Are you serious or was this just a "piss take"?
I do think Geoff had a very valid point in his "trashing of the commons" talk-once the signal-noise ratio deteriorates to a sufficient level, normal people (the toaster crowd) will walk.
Oh, so that's how it all started... I'm sorry I missed the confrence... I would have loved to be there as well but with other things it just wasn't a happening thing this year... :( Sounds like you guys had some great debate happening. Cheers Don
I admit I don't much care for the core-exchange idea, but I do see it as somewhat inevitable if things don't change. And I don't see the authors of spam/malware/DOS- software changing their behavior, therefore somethings gotta give. And the folks forking over the cash will be the ones to drive that change- there will be a huge business for those providing them an out-of-box improved signal. All that being said, the core-exchange system really needs some sort of opt- out as well. Mind you, I'm not saying that I think the core-exchange concept is precisely the solution, but OTOH I don't see any others. And again, I don't like it, but as long as there exist persons who will abuse the commons I see it as inevitable. It's already started, I know more than a few folks in the toaster crowd that are using the net less and less because they're finding the noise ratio unacceptable.
So, in direct reply to your question, the answer is yes, I'm serious. And it sucks in a rather major fashion to have this viewpoint.
Regards,
Ed Hintz ed(a)hintz.org
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