Skip Parker wrote:
Im thinking you missed the line in my initial email saying that we are compliant with the New Zealand Anti Spam law, which clearly requires an Opt in / Opt Out system. We, like many many other list services, have spent the last 5 plus months ensuring our lists only contain those who actually want to be on the list.
Skip, The way you are tying to go about this is valid, but I don't think in this situation it's going to work. Let me tell you why. If someone like yourself comes to an ISP and says: "I want to develop a way to send more of your customers emails (which they really want), can you help me?" Then they are going to either ignore you, not help you, laugh at you, or all of the above. The main reason is that there is nothing in it for them. You're not paying them to deliver them. So spending any time on working with you isn't going to gain them anything. If on the other hand the request came from all their PAYING client base, then it might be a different situation. If 400 75yo grand-mothers all rang the helpdesk and said: "Hello Sonny (Yep they all talk like that). I can't get my emails from crochet-a-harley-davidson-motorbike-cover.co.nz. It says that it's a spam site, but it's really not. Can you please enable it?" See lots of calls from people who actually pay them money will always win over one request from someone who doesn't. There's just nothing in it for them. YOU not being able to send emails, to people who don't complain about it is like a tree falling in the forest with no one listening. To the ISPs it's a problem not happening =) So how do you fix this? Well. Find out where the money is coming from and follow that. Your content providers (List Managers as you refer to them as) must be paying you for a service. You in tern pay your ISP. So your ISP has a vested interest in keeping you happy. Get THEM to work with other providers on a financial and contractual level. That seems to be the best way to get this sort of thing done. If you can't convince your ISP (Who you pay money to) to go his/her peers and negotiate an email-(we swear it's not spam)-whitelist, then you have no show of convincing people who you have no relationship with. Hope this helps Dean