And I've never taken it to be such. I'm merely a bystander interested in the background chatter of what may be going in in the greater scheme of things to do with operating the net in NZ.I've assumed there's obviously a national mail issue, as I'm getting delays of up to 12 hours from most of you. However, is there a forum where you all report that you are actually having problems so that us 'not quite so high level people' can get a heads up without having to bother you when you're busy? Cheers DonYou mean something like a network operators mailing list? Dave Whiny <hey, I didn't know you knew me that well> End User _______________________________________________Don: (from a previous post)One request I would make, when you get a contact would you like to post it back to list so that it exists in the archive for the next person who wants the answer.Answers posted off list are usually meant to stay off-list. Posting anything onto the list you didnt write, or giving out contact details for people who dont want to become the target of "email assaults" when something breaks at 4am on a saturday night is probably going to get you stabbed in the eye with a brick next time you show up at a conference or curry, and is ultimately going to stop anyone truely helpful from "making a quiet, helpful, offlist reply" again - to anyone. Dave: This list has never been a place for users to contact admins, admins to report problems to the "greater masses", or an official contact point for any company - ever. Several companies will beat staff upside the head if they communicate in public forums on their behalf (have you forgotten last weeks drama's already?).