Tony, Tony Wicks wrote:
Well you see Jeff, we all know that Matt is a respected engineer who is actively involved in the day to day running of the New Zealand Internet.
I am happy to hear that! >;) Good for him. Honestly! I don't appreciate him taking so much of of his seemingly precious time posting FUD and casting false aspersions upon others, including myself. If he is so respected as you say, than he doesn't need to, nor should he be doing so. If he were working for me, he would be fired in short order for his behavior in public Mailing lists.
But you wouldn't know that would you ? as you obviously have very little idea what you are ranting about.
I believe I do know exactly what I am talking about. I believe that a huge number of Network Eng. in my country and a few in yours and Matts do as well. Same is true in your whole region of the world for that matter.
have a nice day :-)
You too! >;)
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of Jeff Williams Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:02 PM To: !Dr. Joe Baptista Cc: Matt Camp; Alastair Johnson; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Hmm.
Joe, Matt and all,
Well Joe one has to wonder about the creditability of someone spreading FUD when their own web page http://www.noise.net.nz/ is "Seriously Under Construction". Enough said???!! Hummmm? >;)
I now yet again put back on my flame suit and ready my FUD repellent!
!Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Matt Camp wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Alastair Johnson wrote:
FWIW, Joe Baptista is another net.kook troll. (Try a google for net.kooks - most amusing...)
I'm considering just procmail'ing all content from either !Dr Baptista, or Jeff.
Responding is what they want from us.
I don't want that from you - I say procmail me immediately. Don't even give it second thought.
But you have put me in a position where i have to defend myself. The net kook charges are correct. this story you have pointed to was a setup story developed by myself and major tom.
in fact Major Tom who complained about me in the article - wrote a lovely article about me which unfortunately is no longer available at the eff - but you get the jist of it from the subject index at the eff.
http://www.eff.org/Activism/FOIA/..#files
i got the net kook designation when i told ont.general the newsgroup that i was going to terminate existing freedom of information legislation in the province of ontario by engaging government system resources. everyone laughted.
then i engaged them - the FOI commissioner had his first ever public hearing resulting in an order which terminated FOI in the province of ontario - canada - i.e.
http://www.ipc.on.ca/english/orders/orders-m/m-618.HTM
above you will find the order that has had every journalist in canada crying and complaining that they no longer have access to information. they blame me of course - and the comissioner in charge of the ipc disappeared for a few years only to show up again as an appeals officer for the used auto department. in the civil service that sort of appointment is a demotion.
of course the ramifications of order m-618 are enormouse - i.e. see:
http://search.ipc.on.ca/query.html?col=content&col=orders&col=privacy&ht=0&q p=&qt=m-618&qs=&qc=content+orders+privacy&pw=100%25&ws=0&la=en&qm=0&st=1&nh= 10&lk=1&rf=0&rq=0&si=0
i have also had police chiefs fired. have had extensive newpaper reporting in canada of my activities - yada yada yada.
now i'm involved in opening up the top level domain system - i.e. dns - which see:
http://www.internetnews.com/wd-news/article/0,,10_364761,00.html
and there's a technical issue we could all really sink our teeth into.
so matt - in the end - if i'm a kook - then i'm a happy, busy and very productive kook - but one thing i am not and that is boring. something i accuse you of being.
now matt - a word of advice - if you must subject us to this constant drivel about jeff williams and joe baptista - may i suggest you take this off topic discussion to alt.fan.joe-baptista - my personal newsgroup - just for you. I hereby appoint you moderator of it and by default make you the king of kooks.
enjoy the crown - and now i beg of you - lets get back to good ol boring technical drivel - thats my interest in being here. not wet nursing someone like you in the hope you get back on topic.
regards joe
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