On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Matthew Poole wrote:
Now, we all expect Xtra/Telecom to play nasty games with domestic traffic, but can anyone shed light on why "good" ISPs such as the Hug or Max aren't doing the domestic peering thing? Are we starting to see preemptive peering termination by ISPs who're preparing for the day when the two Ts stop playing the game?
One problem is that citylink's ftp servers are off WIX so providers that peer on APE might not peer fully on WIX since it's costs a bit of money to haul the traffic down there. Ihug should be working however but it looks like a few ranges arn't correctly advertised so they might be causing the problem. Mathew can you please email me with the ihug IP addresses you were on when you got the problem and we should be able to fix the filters.
On the other side, are we now seeing a trend towards content providers playing a political game to try and reverse the swing away from peering? Obviously Citylink are far more involved at the peering level than nearly any other content provider, but blocking access to content mirrors under the guise of protecting the consumer(when in reality it's protecting the provider) is not a good way to make friends.
I feel it's a good way to do this. Just this morning I had a call from someone at a University asking for access to ihug's ftp server since they could no longer get to citylink's . Since the company is a Telecom customer they are paying Telecom for Internet and Telecom are turning around and expecting other companies such as Citylink or ihug to send pay to send them traffic accross links that Citylink or Ihug have to pay Telecom for. Most organisations in Auckland, Wellington or Hamilton can get connected to WIX or APE for around $500 per month. By refusing to do this and getting connected via a non-peering provider they are costing the rest of the NZ Internet money. I did a list of Networks and Organisations a few weeks ago that ( I estimated) were spending more than $5000 per month on Internet but were not peering. The list was incomplete and had several error but if somebody was interested in maintaining and fixing then I'm sure several people could use it for things like: - Blocking access to ftp or web sites - Routing traffic for those ranges via International rather than paid National links. - Traffic shaping across paid links to reduce costs. - Sending bills to to recover costs paid to T&T for National transit. -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.