On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 16:24 +1200, Philip D'Ath wrote:
I do have an IPv6 connection, but can't get to this web site. There appears to be a lack of connectivity between the two of us.
-----Original Message----- ... There is some content at http://www.ipv6porn.co.nz. (If you have IPv6)
Funnily enough I was discussing this thread in the office just yesterday and ended up at the same content. Fetching it over v6 is quite different to fetching it over v4, it seems, and the end user experience is definitely that this is more choppy. Given that I'm 9mS from the office, where my tunnel connects to an IPv6 router which I would *really* like to be well-connected over v6, especially to NZ[1] sites, I thought I'd look a bit harder. WTF! The route goes via _stockholm_ and *then* via _montreal_!!!!! Yep. I wouldn't normally use 5 exclamation marks, but I think this rates... To be honest I have to rate New Zealand's performance on IPv6 as abysmal-- compared to the rest of the world. As far as I can ascertain we have one (1) ISP in New Zealand who appears to be willing to offer IPv6 connectivity to (normal) customers, and they appear to be forced to do that through a tunnel to the US of A. I suspect the situation is just as crappy in Australia, which is why so far the only place in Australia we have managed a v6 tunnel to is Perth. ***THIS*** ***SUCKS*** IPv6 routes to New Zealand cannot possibly follow reasonable paths until there are (at the very least) tunnel brokers that can get upstream from ISPs who are close in a v4 sense. It is interesting to see IPv6 traceroutes from Europe, because they all seem to do sane things. IPv6 traceroutes from China or Japan probably also do, but as far as I can see New Zealand is very much in the v4th world in this. Cheers, Andrew McMillan. And just for anyone who cares, this is the traceroute from my laptop to Philip's site. Sure it's arbitrarily crappy because we're both tunnelling to the US, but there's a whole world of stupidity in the middle even _with_ that caveat. 1. 2404:130:1:f100::f102:1 0.0% 29 11.2 9.3 5.6 19.4 2.9 2. sl-bb1v6-sj-t-45.sprintv6.net 0.0% 28 174.1 172.8 169.1 180.1 2.0 3. sl-bb1v6-nyc-t-1001.sprintv6.net 0.0% 28 251.7 252.9 245.2 362.8 21.7 4. sl-bb1v6-sto-t-102.sprintv6.net 0.0% 28 344.5 347.8 341.6 419.9 14.4 5. 2001:7f8:d:fb::34 0.0% 28 347.2 347.6 341.8 388.6 8.5 6. 2001:440:1880:3000::15 0.0% 28 418.2 423.9 397.4 593.8 37.7 7. c2sth-ge-3-3-0.sunet.se 0.0% 28 423.2 441.2 406.5 531.0 25.6 8. stockholm2-pos-6-0-0.sunet.se 0.0% 28 424.9 421.3 399.5 551.7 28.1 c1sth-ae3.sunet.se 9. stockholm4-ge12-1-1.sunet.se 0.0% 28 423.5 420.7 398.4 508.4 25.2 stockholm2-POS1.sunet.se 10. se-ov.nordu.net 0.0% 28 379.3 382.7 376.5 435.0 10.9 11. dk-gw2.nordu.net 0.0% 28 376.2 381.4 374.9 400.0 5.9 12. dk-gw.nordu.net 0.0% 28 393.5 381.3 376.2 396.5 4.8 dk-gw.nordu.net 13. 2001:798:15:10aa::d 0.0% 28 382.6 390.0 377.3 528.0 31.1 14. so-6-2-0.rt1.fra.de.geant2.net 0.0% 28 382.3 380.4 376.6 390.0 3.3 15. so-6-0-0.rt1.pra.cz.geant2.net 0.0% 28 377.3 382.2 375.7 418.7 8.8 16. so-7-2-0.rt1.vie.at.geant2.net 0.0% 28 377.5 379.3 375.2 389.6 3.3 17. 2001:1900:5:2::5 0.0% 28 376.7 384.4 374.4 513.9 25.6 18. 2001:1900:5:1::1 3.6% 28 396.0 403.2 391.0 619.4 43.3 19. 2001:7f8:4::1935:1 0.0% 28 442.4 467.0 431.4 650.8 47.7 20. ??? 21. ??? 22. ??? 23. if-7-0.mcore4.njy-newark.ipv6.teleglobe.ne 0.0% 28 432.5 456.4 423.9 617.4 47.5 24. if-12-0.mcore3.njy-newark.ipv6.teleglobe.n 0.0% 28 432.1 450.9 421.2 797.4 69.8 25. if-5-0.core2.nto-newyork.ipv6.teleglobe.ne 0.0% 28 433.6 463.5 421.9 829.8 86.6 26. if-4-0-0.core2.nto-newyork.ipv6.teleglobe. 3.7% 28 462.6 453.2 422.2 798.1 71.2 27. if-5-0.mcore4.mtt-montreal.ipv6.teleglobe. 3.8% 27 448.1 457.6 427.5 766.4 64.8 28. gin-mtt-6bb1.ipv6.teleglobe.net 0.0% 27 448.1 456.8 427.4 732.5 56.8 29. ix-5-0-1.6bb1.mtt-montreal.ipv6.teleglobe. 0.0% 27 450.7 456.1 429.0 702.9 51.2 30. 2001:5c0:0:5::117 3.8% 27 454.6 454.6 431.0 666.3 44.9 [1] We'll have a v6 .nz DNS server on there fairly soon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew @ Catalyst .Net .NZ Ltd, PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington WEB: http://catalyst.net.nz/ PHYS: Level 2, 150-154 Willis St DDI: +64(4)803-2201 MOB: +64(272)DEBIAN OFFICE: +64(4)499-2267 You've been leading a dog's life. Stay off the furniture. -------------------------------------------------------------------------