Re: [nznog] Not so short (!) question about internet interconnection

Hey everyone thank you- appreciate this. After sleeping on it, I realised I have been just approaching this the wrong way from the start for sometime. I have been trying to put myself in a netops shoes and indeed becoming conjectural, ranty, political. Trying to grok what operating under it is like is just more likely to fail and just be irritating for people who are just carrying on with it. I am genuinely happy to hear that implementation hasn’t been as awful as I had come to view it. I still think its a terrible law for wider reasons, evidence about how these types of laws change professions or innovation over time, but if I have anything of value add to a conversation or criticism it should come just from my own experience/background and how it might play out before or in Court if it ever did (or why it will never). This is something Ill take back to my blog at airbridge.ac.nz http://airbridge.ac.nz//TICSA Ill retract and say I no longer actively solicit any information from NetOps about their experiences with compliance but appreciate any further engagement above link. Kind regards

On 22/10/2015, at 8:41 am, Dave Mill wrote:

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Mark Foster mailto:blakjak(a)blakjak.net> wrote: When TICSA was being rolled out there were roadshows held in the main centres, where GCSB folks were at great pains to point out that they were keen to work with the telcos and ISP's affected by the law. They were very clear that there would be no need to delay outage remediation or require service interruption of any sort in order to comply with TICSA reporting requirements. (though retrospective notification would be required if the change didn't fall into an exception case).

There was plenty of open and honest communication, including at the last two NZNOG conferences. With much credit to both Police and NCSC, they've been quite accessible and relatively easy to engage, and the whole thing has been pretty drama-free (at least in my experience). Time will tell, of course.

And just a +1 to this in general. The law might suck, but the implementation by the GCSB has been good.

To re-iterate previous points there is no reason for a provider to be held back by the TICSA at all with an emergency outage. Fix the issue however you can and then deal with the TICSA afterwards.

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