On 27/02/2017, at 9:07 PM, Tim Price <tim@initech.co.nz> wrote:How does not opting in to this change negatively affect anyone but the people who choose to abstain? (And their customers). The free market will surely sort this one out.I'm assuming that NZIX's standard deployment will be from now on sans-ix-asn-injection so standard attrition will eventually get us to a semi-consistent state and as to the outliers... my first point applies._______________________________________________On 27/02/2017 6:01 PM, "Nathan Ward" <nznog@daork.net> wrote:On 27/02/2017, at 5:50 PM, Tim Hoffman <tim@hoffman.net.nz> wrote:there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances when the particular behavior is acceptable or even usefulI don't necessarily disagree that a migration over time may be useful, I disagree with the end state of an inconsistent behavior... The key here is having a date by which we enforce a consistent behavior���.So let���s make up a date and push people towards it. No reason we can���t get to a consistent state, right? The Citylink IXes started life as community IXes, no reason we can���t make them community IXes again. How about your birthday next year?Perhaps we could talk about ways to track who is opting-in and who isn���t, do you have thoughts on how to achieve that? I���m not sure I can think of anything technically. Does Citylink intend to publish this information? Perhaps we can encourage people to post on the NZNOG list when they change their ���mode���?With that information, you could channel your energies in to an email to a handful of operators every couple of months. That would be totally reasonable to copy to the list.Having said that, fair point on RFC2119 sir :)Others who thought of it first know who they are :)--Nathan Ward
_______________________________________________
NZNOG mailing list
NZNOG@list.waikato.ac.nz
https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
NZNOG mailing list
NZNOG@list.waikato.ac.nz
https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog