Over 500 clients of Xtra voluntarily registered and received Radio New Zealand and BBC World Live as Multicast on Telecoms dial up service for 3 years from 1998. Radio NZ used to stream their shows from their website. ie Morning report, Kim Hill's (at the time) 9 - noon etc. When they stopped doing it, I (or someone I know) inquired why. From memory the reason given is because they could be in breach of copyright (with APRA and others) for streaming as some of the content during those shows are music being
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Michael Sutton wrote: played or stuff from other networks. By the sounds of it, the only way to do it and not breach is for someone to edit the recording to remove all the stuff they don't own copyright of. I had hoped that in time they would be able to sort out their copyright agreements with various organisations to include online streaming. If this is still the reason why their shows aren't streamed then it may still be a barrier to other networks streaming online. Hence Simon Lyall's post about jumping the hoops wiht APRA. IF they can fine a cafe owner for playing a cassette/CD without paying copyright, goodness knows what they'll do to someone streaming music online. Having written that, I do not know how the other radio stations that stream online have avoided the copyright problems.
If I was implementing Maori Television and Youth Radio I would ... If I ran Correspondence School I would use multicast... I think some problems we face in implementation sometimes tend to be more political than technical.
I thought that Telecom, Telstra etc stopped "telling" customers what are permissible applications... Telecom and Telstra etc are supposed to implement enabling technologies which can be used by its customers who know In an ideal world perhaps. However in real live there appears to be The "is there demand?" "will it reduce costs/increase revenue?" "What is
Some of the target audience in the groups above tend to live in rural areas and it is a challenge for them to get a 56k dialup connection going (without worrying about line quality, electric fences etc) let alone worry about high speed internet. Hence the need for Project Probe. the cost of implementation?" will have to be answered to their management/shareholder's ROI satisfaction. Current revenue model means they can get more revenue providing video on demand (for $). Why introduce something like multicast when you can charge per Mb(or Gb) for bandwidth used over ADSL? Telecom has done the same thing for other technologies, no reason for them to chage their modus operandi for the internet. And as some have pointed out, apart from popular live events like rugby/soccer etc, most things are on demand things. Events like the America's cup races would have reduced bandwidth used. However most people have a TV set and so that is easier to use (for the ordinary punter) than using the internet. On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Cameron Kerr wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:45:16PM +1200, Nathan Ward wrote:
"The mbone is dead" - Greg Shepherd, Uniforum 2002. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this?
Papers presented at Uniforum aren't available online unless the authors of those papers put them on their websites themselves. As it was a comment given during the persentation in reply to David's presentation, I don't think it is online. I am hoping that this year's uniforum papers will be made available online. Even if not the whole thing, the papers/presentations of interest to NZNOG type people. After all if NANOG can' do it, why can't NZNOG? Cameron, if you wish to attend Uniforum this year, it is next week and so you should consider registering asap regards lin