Re: [nznog] Fwd: [kiwi foo campers] stubbornness

I was going to steer clear but think I should jump in at this point. The govt has indicated that it wants the ISPs/TCF to come up with a Code of Practice and that if it doesn't it will suspend s92. That doesn't necessarily mean s92 will vanish - the govt has suggested that if a Code doesn't get introduced (requiring buy-in from both sides ie ISPs and rights holders) then it will have to come up with its own solution. That may be non-ideal. As an ISP we're happier working towards a solution (even if it is lipstick on a pig) that might make the existing law work while at the same time pointing out the flaws in the legislation as it stands (and I highly recommend Judge David Harvey's paper on s92 and why it should be chucked out for anyone who's interested in such things). I guess it's a case of better the devil you know than the devil you don't. Plus if the govt does decide to come up with a new piece of legislation we've played ball and our input will be valued. I hope. Cheers Paul Paul Brislen External Communications Manager Vodafone New Zealand 021 721 337 -----Original Message----- From: Andy Linton [mailto:asjl(a)lpnz.org] Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 10:55 a.m. To: NZNOG List Subject: [nznog] Fwd: [kiwi foo campers] stubbornness Seems to me that ISPs should follow TelstraClear's lead and get their ass out of the TCF negotiations ASAP. andy Begin forwarded message:

From: Richard Wood Date: 12 March 2009 10:32:37 To: campers(a)groups.baacamp.org Subject: [kiwi foo campers] stubbornness Reply-To: campers(a)groups.baacamp.org

A spokesman for Justice Minister Simon Power told NZPA it was still the Government's preference that the industry should sort out the issue itself.

"We're advised that the negotiations are going along in a reasonably constructive way so we're hopeful that could still happen, even without TelstraClear," the spokesman said.

http://www.guide2.co.nz/politics/news/copyright-negotiations-reasonably- constructive039-govt-says/11/6261

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