:: An FBI agent demonstrated that at NANOG 21 in DC a while back. That :: was how it worked then, although the agent who gave the presentation :: said they had other versions in the pipeline. Yes, bah gumm, even an Open Sores version! #ping carnivore.sourceforge.net Translating "carnivore.sourceforge.net"...domain server (203.96.152.4) [OK] Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 216.136.171.201, timeout is 2 seconds: !!!!! Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 176/180/188 ms :: Most of their effort seemed to have gone into building a filter :: front-end that you could configure directly from a court order; he :: went to some pains to indicate how the system was designed to let :: agents view only traffic that the court said you could view, and :: nothing else. I would love to see a screenshot of the "court order GUI". Tort and malfeasance PNGs, please! -- Juha --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog