Re: [nznog] Hello Hurricane Electric, doubling the size of our domestic table?

I'd call that partial transit ;-) (BGP sanity questions remain). On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:05 PM Dave Mill wrote:

Buying 'domestic' is a way of paying for the privilege of sending/receiving traffic to Spark :)

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Tom Paseka wrote:

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If I can ask, what does a "domestic" table genuinely bring you. If you carry routes to your edge(s) that have both peering and transit, do you need to extend the DFZ all the way through your network? If you've got a single exit path (or a few) do you need to extend the domestic routes any further?

Another thing to note: BGP Sanity. Apply AS_PATH filters to all your peers. This doubly so if you're extending the routes throughout your network. Much of HE's routes might not be relevant to your network and could have easily been sanitized with some nice filters.

Also congrats to HE/Team! -Tom

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM Tim Hoffman wrote:

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Don't forget that the NZ/AU concept of 'domestic table' is a fairly unique concept that isn't seen in much of the rest of the world- generally any feed is going to be default, a peering feed (customer routes), or a full table.... Doubt anyone thought of it ;).

Congrats to Mike & Walt on extending to NZ... pretty cool to see a worldwide carrier finally making it there - fantastic to see how far the NZ internet has progressed!

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:47 PM Bill wrote:

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Perhaps those that had issues should use such tools as prefix limits on their inbound feeds. We get notified by our edge routers quite regularly that the number of prefixes has or is about to max out.

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On 19/09/2018, at 4:39 PM, Liam Farr wrote:

IMO I think its great that a large carrier has come to our neck of the woods, and they are openly peering on both our major IX's. This is a good thing for internet in NZ.

Notifications were sent to the affected parties who peer, months in advance.

I don't believe HE had any malicious intent to break your internet.

If your stuff broke because you have a shit upstream, fix it and move on.

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 16:35, Michael Fincham wrote:

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:32:09 +1200 Nathan Ward wrote:

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Through whoever you buy domestic transit from - communication for these sorts of changes, and if required protecting customers who want to run such a service on c2610s, is a core part of such a service. If your transit providers are unable to do this I would suggest looking towards other operators.

This is a bad attitude IMO. An operator turns up in NZ, breaks a bunch of stuff, doesn't even bother to post to NZNOG letting us know they're going to break things, and you're just blaming my transit provider?

Also, none of the IXes posted on NZNOG?

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