Re: Paul Brislen: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10748747 ] " The ISP doesn't. It's up to the rights holder to determine that you've downloaded that file called The Terminator and that it's a movie and that they have the rights to it and that you haven't got the rights to download it. if they can't demonstrate that to the ISP (which will then check its records to determine if that file was downloaded and if so at what time and by whom) then the ISP rejects the claim." I don't quite get this. I know the ISP will have records of who had what IP address and perhaps even fairly detailed logs of how much throughput over the day, but if they get told that whatever IP at 8:08:45 pm was observed downloading The Terminator, are any of the the ISP's able to refute that? Do they even log what kind of traffic I was doing at the time? Do they keep track of http vs. torrent vs. skype traffic? Sorry to ask here, but it seemed like the best place to get an informed answer. Also, beer...