I've replied off list to this one to other people, but I'll reply on list to stop the rest of the messages. As I've said, I took my requirement off shore. My initial needs have been met. -----Original Message----- From: Dean Pemberton [mailto:nznog(a)deanpemberton.com] Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 11:08 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Gotta make a post seeing as it's IPv6 =) wasIPv4 Exhaustion Yep same here. If you're paying ANY price I'll even through in all the consultancy you need to get it all going. Consider it a done deal. I'll build you the best damn IPv6 connectivity you've ever seen. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume we're talking about different definitions of 'ANY' Seriously though. All it's gonna take is someone who is serious about doing this. I'm happy to put my hand up and say that there will be a price that you could contact my employer and have me come to your place of employment and make you fully IPv6 connected. [1] It can happen today. Just say the word. Dean [1] this is not a paid advertisment. NZNOG does not support paid or unpaid advertisments. This has been to illustrate a point. Nathan Ward wrote:
At ANY price, you say?
I'll gladly sell it to you. Please contact me off-list for pricing.
On 29/11/2006, at 10:29 PM, Philip D'Ath wrote:
About six months ago I tried to by IPv6 connectivity. I could find no one in NZ who was prepared to sell it to me - at any price.
I ended up having to go offshore to get the connectivity I wanted.
-----Original Message----- From: Dean Pemberton [mailto:nznog(a)deanpemberton.com] Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:26 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Gotta make a post seeing as it's IPv6 =) was IPv4 Exhaustion
All I can say is that I'm glad I don't work for a carrier anymore. =)
Both David and AJ are correct. I think this was the brunt of the pres that Joe and I gave last year.
If you're not willing to make a bigger deal about it, then it's not going to happen.
Now looking at this mailing list, this is a topic which has sparked a lot of interest and you've all taken the time to write and have your say.
But seriously, how many of you have had this conversation with your upstream account managers in either of the following ways.
"I'll pay more for IPv6" or "We're moving all our business to someone who offers IPv6"
Because if you havn't then it's not surprising that the IPv6 Internet in
NZ is in exactly the same state today as it was when Joe and I finished talking last Feb.
Come on people - we TOLD you what you had to do. Have you really been ignoring us and playing WoW all this time? =)
Dean
Alastair Johnson wrote:
David Robb wrote:
I'm all for IPv6 being deployed. The only way it's going to happen is
for
big customers of big ISPs to say either "I'll pay for IPv6" or "I'll
take
my business to a competitor who offers IPv6". Endless hand-waving and
soapboxing on this mailing list isn't going to achieve much folks.
Waving
sales commissions (or lack thereof) at sales/account managers of the
ISPs
might.
And at the end of the day, they're going to buy services from someone,
regardless of whether they actually get v6 or not. So you may or may not get the business, and if you don't, you haven't really lost
anything
anyway.
David is right. It will always be driven by customer demand
(dollars),
not by "the end is nigh". I even said that last night. :(.
aj.
-- ipv4 and atm is still the only way to go. just accept it.
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