How does not opting in to this change negatively affect anyone but the people who choose to abstain? (And their customers). The free market will surely sort this one out.��

I'm assuming that NZIX's standard deployment will be from now on sans-ix-asn-injection so standard attrition will eventually get us to a semi-consistent state and as to the outliers... my first point applies.

On 27/02/2017 6:01 PM, "Nathan Ward" <nznog@daork.net> wrote:

On 27/02/2017, at 5:50 PM, Tim Hoffman <tim@hoffman.net.nz> wrote:

there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances when the particular behavior is acceptable or even useful
I don't necessarily disagree that a migration over time may be useful, I disagree with the end state of an inconsistent behavior... The key here is having a date by which we enforce a consistent behavior��.

So let��s make up a date and push people towards it. No reason we can��t get to a consistent state, right? The Citylink IXes started life as community IXes, no reason we can��t make them community IXes again. How about your birthday next year?

Perhaps we could talk about ways to track who is opting-in and who isn��t, do you have thoughts on how to achieve that? I��m not sure I can think of anything technically. Does Citylink intend to publish this information? Perhaps we can encourage people to post on the NZNOG list when they change their ��mode��?

With that information, you could channel your energies in to an email to a handful of operators every couple of months. That would be totally reasonable to copy to the list.

Having said that, fair point on RFC2119��sir :)

Others who thought of it first know who they are :)

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Nathan Ward

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