Re: Wireless APE.

18 Jan 2001

      Actually, it's not nearly as expensive as you might think...  well 
under market rates for a tower that size.  Of course, the bandwidth 
is the expensive part (it's not the fall that kills you; it's the 
sudden stop).

As for competing with IHug, after reading over the seniority unlicensed 
spectrum rights clause in the APE's peering agreement, you'll soon 
understand that you're not "competing" with anything but the envy that 
commercial providers might have of your success in distributing the 
service.  In short, plan to be shut down if you even think about doing 
DSSS on the Sky Tower without the blessing the existing tenants.  

Of course, they hardly ever send anyone up with a spectrum analyser 
to check, so you'll probably get away with it for a good while (long 
enough to get enough people to buy expensive gear that they'll be upset 
when you get turned off... then all you'll have to do is simultaniously
move to several adjacent properties, get a Clear city fiber LAN 
connection (if it has come out of the vapor, marketing stage yet) for
each of those properties and get used to paying ceullar site antenna 
rates).

Of course if it were easy, free or even possible, someone-else would 
have already done it.  All the same, I wish you luck... the idea of
spectrum rights for unlicensed spectrum is an aberation that will
eventually be challenged from the outside, given the current rate
of commercial acceptance the 802.11b standard is now just beginning
to experience.

Chris Hellberg wrote:
...
Same response as Juha's. I've always had an idea of having a
wireless-internet or wireless LAN co-op after I read a slashdot story
about it. The only prob I can see with this is the yearly rental of the
space at the sky tower for the comms gear. Aparently it's a few thousand
a year.
Chris
...
...
...
"Juha Saarinen"  01/19/01 11:21a.m.
Trying to compete with Ihug eh? ;-)
Yes to a) & b)... and c) as well, I suppose, depending on the size of
the
chip so to speak.
-- Juha
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