I hope ISP's stand together and don't peer with "T". That way all "T" customers will have slow internet connectivity to all NZ sites and make "T" purchase a line into those content providers. O.K. those websites such as trade me and the rest will suffer for a month or so, but "T" will suffer more when they realize that they may have a fat international pipe, but the smaller players don't and they would be delivering content at slow speeds. Hell, maybe those sites in question can start selling their own visp connections. "This site loading slowly; well we see you're connecting from X whom decided to De-peer from the NZ Internet, do you want internet at $X where we will provide you better connectivity". This way everyone wins. Content providers can then extend their services to ISP servers and start to tap into the market and make extra competition for the big players. My 2c. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Simon Lyall [mailto:simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:12 AM To: nznog Subject: [nznog] Telstra peering pricing. Little article here by the usual suspect: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/UNID/B67C1AFC59BD060FCC256EC900164A26?Op enDocument&pub=Computerworld "According to several ISP sources who did not wish to be named, a month's megabit-per-second-level connection of TelstraClear's Domestic Internet Service will cost $160 plus GST. Purchase of TelstraClear circuits will also be required. " It would be interesting to see at what bandwidth the link will be worth getting, for small ISPs the circuit cost will probably mean it's just cheaper to use either their existing International link or another domestic provider to deliver the bandwidth. Even for larger providers the revenue is only going to be one or two thousand per month each. Not much to compensate for pissing everybody else off. And the larger providers will have plenty of options like sending Telstra customers like Waikato University bills to route their traffic nationally. -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog