On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 10:47 +1200, Simon Blake wrote:
Huh? The DUL *is* for blocking delivery, not relaying - the implication (that they should only use it to block relaying) is that you think Paradise should allow relaying for everything else?
Oh, I had hoped delivery, which is rather more limited in it's harm (given I am delivering to a customer, and it's properly the customers choice whether they want it or not), and I thought more traceable as to it's origin, plus as relaying is the reason I was blocked, and relaying seems to be the big bogie these services want controlled, then I concluded delivery might be regarded more "leniently?" than a relay request. I'm not sure how you derived the idea that I "think Paradise should allow relaying for everything else?" but I hope there is no need for me to explicitly disagree with that, but I do anyway.
It's their choice. Customers can always walk the walk, if they don't like the particular subset of the net that their particular ISP chooses to let them talk to.
I certainly didn't mean to suggest they couldn't choose to, on the contrary, I'm *very* pro-choice, isn't that why we have the Net? I queried whether it was responsible. And since it is a choice for the ISP, why can it not also be a choice for the recipient?
For better or worse, the DUL does work pretty well - every day, my mail server drops a couple of dozen mails based on DUL entries. Given that the users on my server aren't backwards in coming forwards when they don't get mail they were expecting (they're mainly staff), I can only conclude that the majority of mail being blocked by DUL entries is unsolicited.
Well, OK, your choice, and I did mean to emphasise that the recipient might be offered a choice about this. I understood the target was more specific than "unsolicited?" I was lead to believe by the rhetoric that it was "unsolicited commercial email" that was intended to be blocked. Not me, delivering to a single recipient.
Si
Hamish. -- It is human nature to take credit for success and blame circumstances for failure. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog