As the no of people with connections on citylink grows I would expect something like this would have to be done, certainly we don't want or need to be seeing traffic from our customers that is only going straight back onto citylink. Why send traffic where it doesn't need to go? Does CNHL have the resource (in Simon Blake perhaps) to manage it? What sort of charge would be levied on customers in addition to what they currently pay? Its my opinion that this should be part of the service fee that is paid to maintain a connection currently but then of course I'm not a shareholder in CNHL. If it is charged in addition to, then those people who might choose not to take part (due to it costing) in fact reduce the value of the service to those who do. Regards Shane
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of Simon Blake Sent: Thursday, 8 October 1998 00:15 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Route servers on Citylink (WIX)
Hi Folks
For the last couple of months I've had a linux box running the MRT route daemon as an experimental BGP route server, with links between a few organisations on Citylink who were happy to participate in a trial.
The main aim of the experiment was to consider ways that Citylink connected organisations with BGP capable routers but without AS numbers might exchange routing data, so that they can send data directly between each other, without having to go through one (or several) ISP routers.
As a rudimentary route server, MRT seems to work really well (it lacks some of the RIPE tools of the Merit RA, but on the other hand, it compiles under Linux :-). We ended up setting up MRT to peer with the organisations who had AS numbers, and then setup all the other routers in AS number 65502 (chosen at random) as static routes within MRT, and redistributed them into BGP. Turn off synchronisation on the routers in AS65502, and everything seemed to work as advertised (this is speaking from memory, I haven't looked at it for about 6 weeks).
Citylink is now at the stage where we've got customers pestering us to incorporate them into the system, and a management itchy keen to take some money off of these people. So I guess what I'm after from the list is some opinions on whether this is a good idea, and I'm on the right track. Obviously, for this to be more than a toy I need the ISP's on Citylink to participate in such an exchange, so recommendations on making it easier for them to be involved are welcome.
Cheers Si
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