I just spoke to the lecturer to taught the data security paper when I took it at uni. To cut the long story short... He is currently trying to get a meeting / seminar set up so we can hear it from the horses mouth. I don't doubt he can pull it off as he does have contacts. It is planned for sometime towards the end of this month. It will be publicised under the U of Auckland faculty of COmmerce and the NZ Information Security Forum (which he is the chair of and I was subtly reminded that my membership had lapsed for nearly 2 years). Anyway he was in a meeting and couldn't talk. I'll try to get hold of him tomorrow to find out more. If it sounds like what we need then I'll make sure you hear of the meeting. If doesn't, I'll see if I can organise a 2nd meeting with the same people but more in the forum we need (eg he can hold the one that general public may be interested in and we have another for the techies?) That all depends on what I hear wrt his plans. Will keep everyone posted. regards Lin --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog