Hi guys - this isn't strictly operational but I think it's an appropriate audience. As per the subject, I'm after current info about experiences with MFAT over the export of strong crypto, either as software, or embedded in hardware. The online references I can find (Some listed below) are reasonably old and I was hoping there had been some change. (I quote from a 1997 letter from Sec Foreign affairs and trade - Mr Borrie) "This sort of product (encrpytion software) is considered a "dual use" good in terms of the New Zealand Export Controls which means that they are able to be adapted for military, terrorist or criminal use" (I could adapt a plastic spoon for criminal use - but that's beside the point!) Source : http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/mfat_2r.html I looked at the MFAT site and they still list encryption software on their "New Zealand Strategic Goods List Index of Controlled Goods" page. Source : http://www.mfat.govt.nz/foreign/dis/nzsgl/pages/laste.html So I guess my question is does anyone know if they have relaxed their approach to 3DES (or even AES-xxx) given that these 'technologies' are freely available internationally, and that 128bit encryption has been effectively opened way up by international adoption in browsers? I'm happy to summarise if there's a bit of feedback. Cheers - Neil Gardner. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesyn Research Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesyn Research.