Re: [nznog] UFB 1 gig plans for retail and impact they have

ISPs will be the same. Try and restrict people and you'll just end up playing whack-a-mole

I agree that trying to restrict creative people from having free access will result in whack-a-mole, but common sense is needed when considering the damage that can be done with basic reflection attacks. Should you default block the deafult SNMP port to a residential user from the Internet? Can the CPE vendor be trusted to not leave a default "public" community with the Internet facing interface permitted? Can the user be trusted to secure their own network devices to prevent misuse? Which of these things is the easiest to accomplish and provides no reduction in experience for 99.95% of "normal" residential Internet users? Which of them has the potential to melt down the Internet if a CPE vendor ships 500,000+ units of equipment and leaves a door open? Macca On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Dean Pemberton wrote:

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:12 AM, David Robb wrote:

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Which is the last thing I think worth mentioning; that the internet will route around damage, whether we like it or not. We can filter things, we can try to block stuff, but unless you cut off the connectivity completely, devices and programs will still find ways to talk directly to each other.

Good point well made. It's something that IT departments are having to live with and ISPs will be no different. If you don't give employees the quality of email or file storage that they have come to expect, they'll just install gmail and install dropbox. and BYO-IT-Department is born.

ISPs will be the same. Try and restrict people and you'll just end up playing whack-a-mole. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog