Juha Saarinen wrote:
[...] The issue that I'm trying to raise is that even though my network is locked down tight, I'm still being bombarded by traffic that I don't want, and which terminates at my router, even though I reject/drop that traffic. So, I pay for that traffic.
<metatopic> ...then it would be in your best interest to point out, to your national telco/government, the extreme flaws inherant in attempting to tariff internet traffic... </metatopic>
I think it would be a great PR move for ISPs to help their customers, who obviously don't have control over the upstream network, to ditch unwanted/hostile traffic further upstream.
Just be glad you don't have to live with the american solution to this problem: filtering all web traffic for lightweight DSL and cable users. The message to their users? If you want a real internet connection, colocate. I'm sure Jestream wouldn't mind adapting this idea to their own service (and I would be quick to call traffic tariffs into question, again, the miniute they did this). [caustic sarcasm on] You don't really expect Jetstream to pay any technical attention to this obviously transient problem affecting only a very small minority of overly vocal users, do you? I mean that's *exactly* why PPPoE/A realms based authentication is there in the first place. If you don't turn your DSL router off when you're finished surfing, that's your problem, buddy. Read your Telecom/Jetstream contract carefully... it's all in there. [caustic sarcasm off] The real solution is to ditch tariffed DSL connections or move to statefull billing, where only customer initiated data traffic is tariffed (...and, off the top of my head, I don't know of any such billing system). Just remember this bit of economics: ISPs oversubscribe their bandwidth, which they may or may not pay a flat rate for, and it is in everyone's best interest (at least under the Telecom regiem) to simply pass the traffic and bill you. So, while such a service might be good PR, it's bad business. Besides, most ISP would probably rather have you colocate (so they aren't robbed of bandwidth revenue which they are forced to pass on to Telecom once the traffic is put on the DSL network... and telcos claim taffic tariffs are about recouping international bandwidth costs!) and sell follow on security service (and that's what this proposed feature really is). --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog