Erm ... Sorry i split the reply...too much crossposting. (I don't like posting to lists I don't subscribe to). I use it because it does the job and I take suitable precautions that its not unsafe. (Virus Protection). I use windows because my work requires it, electronic design etc. This discussions really depends on how 'safe' a 'car' is. An 'unsafe' car could be interpreted as anything thats not a large european car built like a tank. Which is my perception of non-windows clients in this situation. People buy these 'unsafe' cars because they're more accessible (cheaper), more popular, go faster (hrm?) etc. Without the knowledge of how 'safe' they really are. It all comes down to how you drive the car, if you are reckless when driving, fail to keep up with the warrant of fitness etc. The cars safety can rapidly degrade. This is how I perceive the Email Clients problem, people use their computers in a reckless manner, perhaps due to the exorbident(sp?) claims of the manufacturers 'safety' but mainly due to ignorance. Cheers James - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog