I've been contemplating a post like this for a
        while.
        
        
        Does it seem logical that we change our AUP to be something
          like:
        
        
        'Please contact me off-list' posts will only be tolerated
          if you have tried the 'normal means' before doing so.
        
        
        Normal means would be:
        
        
        -Phoning the company and asking to talk to someone about
          your issue. This does often work.
        -Contacting the appropriate people using the noc-list
          contacts on the NZNOG website
        -Emailing the appropriate address (i.e. noc@ or
          postmaster@)
        
        
        I'm just getting a bit of sick of NZNOG being used largely
          as a 'can someone from xyz please contact me off-list' list.
        
        
        </rant>
        
        
        And I don't mean to just pick on this thread. It's just
          been happening a lot lately it seems.
        
        
        Cheers
        Dave