Pardon the intrusion on this list, but: InternetNZ is in the process of evolving a position on the Telecommunications framework and regulatory environment in New Zealand, with a view to making submissions to the Minister of Technology prior to 31 January. We are seeking input from members and interested stakeholders to assist us in reaching a consensus position on which we can proceed. Meetings are scheduled as follows: Wellington Wednesday 25 January at 6.00pm InternetNZ, 9th Floor, Exchange Place 5 - 7 Willeston Street Auckland Thursday 26 January at 6.00pm Marlborough Room 2 Sky City Convention Centre Christchurch Venue and date TBC, if sufficient interest exists to hold a meeting. InternetNZ would welcome participation from NZNOGgers who may have empathy with InternetNZ's broad philosophy of an open and uncaptureable Internet for NZ. To assist with room requirements, RSVP by email to office at internetnz.net.nz indicating the meeting you wish to attend i.e. Auckland / Wellington / Christchurch, before 9am Monday 23 January. Issues to be discussed will include: - Should reconsideration be given by Government to Local Loop Unbundling (LLU)? - Should the Government legislate to split Telecom into wholesale and retail operations? - Should the Government legislate for local neutral IP peering? - Should InternetNZ provide a round of beers for meeting participants? etc. A briefing paper will be provided to registered participants by Tuesday 24 January. Regards Keith Davidson Executive Director - InternetNZ