We’ll just tell our clients to implement full encryption on top of their telco links. By the way, the GCSB has been under the covers telling every government department (which still talks to them) that they should stop using their current IT security consultants. This bill seems to be in the same line of thought which would be as I read it “use the GCSB as your IT security consultants so we know everything that’s happening”. *From:* discussion-bounces(a)lists.isig.org.nz [mailto: discussion-bounces(a)lists.isig.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *Mike Forbes *Sent:* Friday, 10 May 2013 10:23 *To:* nznog; NZISIG Discussion *Subject:* [NZISIG] TICS bill passing under urgency Hi list(s) The Government is pushing through this amended bill under urgency - along with the GCSB Amendment bill. I've only had a quick read but it already made me feel pretty angry. Instead of just bitching about it on IRC and twitter and at bus stops to confused elderly people, I thought I'd try and do something - and I had a chance to speak with Clare Curran (Labour MP) recently about it. She suggested she would support fighting / commenting against this bill, with help and advice. The problem is most people voting for it have no idea what it means or is for. We (you - Network Operators and IT Professionals, hi!) need to advise and talk and share information about what these changes really mean - and if they're good. The Tech Liberty NZ website has some good reading and a bit of a summary on the TICS Bill - http://techliberty.org.nz/govt-proposes-gcsb-control-over-nz-communications-... and the scoop links to the full bills are here: http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/1305/Telecommunications_InterceptionCapabi... http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/1305/wstGovernment_Communications_Security... TL;DR: The new TICS bill has some changes that could impact the way you do networking in New Zealand - and if you care you should say something. Beers, -- // Mike