Re: [nznog] nzwrt redux?

My main complaint about the turris omnis is lack any FXS voice port. Removing wifi isn’t really an option - I would prefer the wifi to be built on to the main pcb to save costs rather than a pcie card. There also doesn’t appear to be a 24v POE output on the WAN port or any external battery backup connector. So they have effectively eliminated most ISPs from being bulk customers. A $100 router doesn’t scare me much if it performs well, can be screwed to the wall etc. But it needs those features listed above for us as an ISP to want to issue it to customers. Sure you can add an ATA and that battery backup product that an NZ company made for UFB installs but that is all extra wires. Ray Taylor Taylor Communications ray(a)ruralkiwi.com Napier: 06-929-9082 Waipukurau: 06-928-0549 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Taht [mailto:dave.taht(a)gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 10:09 p.m. To: Jed Laundry Cc: Tristram Cheer; Ray Taylor; davey(a)latte.net.nz; Daniel Christie; NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] nzwrt redux? A couple notes: People are complaining about the pricepoint for the turris omnis. *with sales volume* that pricepoint decreases. Also, my thought was it would go out "bare" for the basic gpon connection, no wifi cards, case with a customized label... Secondly, merely proving out/building a box that CAN do gpon well does not go "oh god optics" - it establishes what can be done with validated hardware and software and makes room for cost-reductions to follow. What would it take to tackle the latter? Dave Täht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Jed Laundry wrote:

Hi Daniel, Davey, Ray, Tristram,

On 19 November 2015 at 13:04, Tristram Cheer wrote:

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Under the current UFB structure there is no scope for RSP supplied or end user supplied pluggable optics

That's not true - we've come *very* close to having naked/glass BS4 connections, but we've yet to actually install one, because every time it's Really Happening, it's "argh optics, too hard need service tomorrow, give me copper plzkthxbai".

On 19 November 2015 at 17:18, Davey Goode wrote:

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Alu do an ont on a sfp, I was talking to some chorus people a year + back about them Would be awesome if they released them especially for business connections

Optic compatibility & scale of deployment are also two of the reasons why we haven't pursued SFP ONTs - because then if I supply the optic, you have to make it work in your kit; and then when it doesn't work we argue until all the beer money has been spent on test equipment and lab time. If we can't get it working with simple Ethernet, what hope do we have with GPON?

Note: opinions are my own, etc etc.

Thanks, Jed.