On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 14:45, Simon Blake wrote:
I think you're probably asking a lot of Donald there. So he's to work out a definition of what exactly constitutes a NZ network operator (ie. network operators from other countries are banned) and then verify who exactly fits the definition. How would he do that?
No. What I suggested was that he pick a few of the current members that he knows meets some basic defn of NZ network operator, and seed the list with them. Then, the list as a whole can choose who else joins. All I'm asking Don to do is seed an initial list, and if he misses anybody who is a legit operator then they'll be known to others on the list, and be (re)instated as members. I certainly don't expect any one person to be the sole arbiter of what constituted a network operator, but I'd expect the hive mind to have a fairly good idea.
Exactly what is the definition of a 'NZ network operator" though? Some of those who fit that description should be on this list far less than a few of those who do not fit in there at all. I believe if the above was done, it would come down to a case of who you know, not what you do or what you know. For example, would you grant me access to this list, i know I fit in the definition of a 'NZ network operator" better than others who would be granted access. But does anyone know that? I would like to see a few more admins, who take a stronger approach to OT ramblings of others. I understand Don couldnt act as quick as many would have liked, due to him having other responsibilitys. Had there been other administrators on this list with the ability to act, I am sure the previous threads would not have got as bad as they did. Take baby steps to solve the problem, not totally rebuilding something that isn't broken. Regards, Jeremy Brooking OASN: Id rather see 1 off topic rant that I can ignore, than 1 500k untrimmed unquoted top-posted on topic message :P