Re: all this hubbub, Why do companies in New Zealand apply directly to APNIC for portable assignments? APNIC have provided for the existence of National Internet Registries http://www.apnic.net/docs/policy/add-manage-policy.html#4.1.2 which can allocate portable space. Is there no such beast in New Zealand? I must assume there is not. Given the amount of end user organizations who would benefit from portable /23 and /24 assignments, (organizations who would not realisticly qualify for a /22 from APNIC) it would make sense for a National Internet Registry in New Zealand to assign space in a way more suitable to the local environment. Thoughts? JB -----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley(a)isc.org] Sent: Saturday, 27 November 2004 5:19 p.m. To: David Zanetti Cc: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] Rescue from alligators in the swamp On 26 Nov 2004, at 16:00, David Zanetti wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Andy Linton wrote:
There's one simple message here. If you want address space that you can call your own, you need to accept that the cost of joining APNIC is part of the cost of doing business and get on with applying.
I was looking at doing that for $EMPLOYER, but despite reading up various bits of documentation and calling APNIC with some basic questions, I felt the whole process was such a crapshoot I couldn't spend $LARGE on a chance we might get portable space.
If you follow the procedure, and understand the policy (which isn't hard), then there's little or no risk involved. These days you don't even get your membership application processed before you've been approved for resources, never mind pay for the membership.
We're not after much, /23 would be plenty, and we're multihomed, but the discussions with APNIC were very much "won't talk, pay us $LARGE and we'll think about it", which just isn't acceptable.
If all you can justify is a /23, then you can't get PI addresses at all unless you're operating critical Internet infrastructure or an exchange point. A /22 is the minimum assignment, and to get that you have to demonstrate that you're multi-homed. I've never met a single member of APNIC staff who weren't approachable and helpful when asked questions about resource requests (and I've done more than a few of them, for all kinds of different people). Joe _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog