On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 12:30:47PM +1300, Simon Lyall wrote: I'm not saying bandwidth is free but 15cents per megabyte for National and Internation is a bit steep. Even if it's 100% International it implies a per Megabyte cost of around $48,000 per month (which I hope is more than most people are paying). Factor in the cost of the Southern Cross Cable --- it's not a clear cut as you may think. Why not charge a flat rate for the link/user and let the ISP traffic shape/charge the customers, this works okay for jetstart? Some carriers do. Sadly not everyone has the option of using them. Also, shaping to thousands of individual users becomes technically difficult. If you compare the current jetstart/jetstream pricing then they are way out of whack. AFAIK the extra money customers pay for Jetstream doesn't buy them anything except removal of the cap and the ability to do static ips, all the extra money they now pay goes to telecom rather than the ISP. Yet people continue to buy Jetstream and the uptake is pretty good. For such a terrible product this surprises me. --cw - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog